Transformers: War for Cybertron Characters Compared to How They Looked Before in G1

Now that most of the characters have been announced (we think) for High Moon Studios’ Transformers: War for Cybertron video game, let’s take a look at how these new designs compare to how they looked originally.  Most characters are based off of their G1 (Generation 1… as in original 80’s cartoon) counterparts.  The only exceptions (so far?) are Demolishor (based off of Transformers: Armada), Barricade (based off of the 2007 Transformers Live Action Movie), and Slipstream (based off of Transformers: Animated).  The following is a visual display of how the characters look in the new video game compared to what they used to look like.  Larger versions of each image can be viewed by clicking on the picture.

Autobots

Optimus Prime

Bumblebee

Ratchet

Ironhide

Jetfire (known as Skyfire in the 80’s cartoon)

Silverbolt

Air Raid

Sideswipe

Warpath

Arcee (female character)

Jazz (*available from Best-Buy pre-order)

Omega Supreme (one of the “big boss” battles)

Decepticons

Megatron

Starscream

Soundwave

Skywarp

Thundercracker

Brawl

Breakdown

Barricade

Slipstream (female character)

Shockwave (*available from Gamestop pre-order)

Demolishor (*available from Amazon.com pre-order)

Trypticon (one of the "big boss" battles)

Items of note: *pre-order characters Jazz, Shockwave, and Demolishor are only playable in Escalaton Mode.  Omega Supreme and Trypticon are not playable characters.  You play against them — against Omega Supreme in the decepticon story and against Trypticon in the autobot story.  Silverbolt and Air Raid were Aerialbots in the original cartoon.  Brawl was a Combaticon and Breakdown was a Stunticon.

So, what do you think?  Did High Moon Studios do a good job on their character designs or are some disappointing in your mind?  Sound off in the comments section below.

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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen — Plot Holes? or not?

 

Transformers RotF

When Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen came out in theators in the summer of 2009, it was widely criticized for having a plot that one could not follow or that didn’t make sense.  Now that the movie is out on BluRay (or DVD), people have been able to watch it again.

So… are there plot holes?  Or can they be explained?

SPOILER WARNING (if you haven’t watched the movie)

Transformers RotF - All Spark splinter

1.  How come there were two pieces of the All Spark?  I thought at the end of Transformers 1, Optimus Prime only pulled one shard from Megatron’s chest.  In Revenge of the Fallen, the All Spark shard is the one protected in the military hide-out that Ravage (jaguar decepticon) and his Reed-Man bot steals.  The other All Spark piece, referred to as the sliver, was found by Sam at home.  It was a piece that was stuck to his wool hoodie from the first movie.

2.  Why didn’t Sam Witwicky (Shia LeBeouf) use the All Spark sliver that he gave to Mikaela (Megan Fox) to revive Optimus Prime?  In the first movie, we see that the All Spark was able to give Frenzy (the little guy who transformed into a CD player) his body back and give life to electronic machines/devices (cell phone, xbox, etc).  Similarly in Revenge of the Fallen, we see the sliver gave life to small kitchen appliances like the cappaccino maker, phone, blender, etc.  We never see the All Spark give life to a large machine.  We know it didn’t bring back Bumblebee’s legs at the end of the first movie.  We know the shard didn’t bring back Jazz to life.  From these observations, the All Spark sliver or the All Spark shard do NOT have the ability to bring back a large transformer to life who was dead.

Yes, the sliver is used on Jetfire, but he was NOT dead.  He was in some type of “stasis nap”.  He mentions how without Energon, the transformers deterioate.  He likely went in this “stasis nap” to preserve himself.  The sliver re-awakened him.

2.  How come Megatron was “revived” by an All Spark shard when it was the All Spark that “killed” him in the first movie?  I’m confused.  The full All Spark is too much power to be absorbed by a Transformer.  Sam overloaded Megatron at the end of Transformers 1 by putting it into Megatron’s chest.  It did knock Megatron out.  However, whether he was dead or not is speculation.  Our feeling is that Megatron was in some type of stasis-lock.  “The Doctor”, a.k.a. Scapel (the little microscope decepticon), is obviously an expert on how Transformers work and the history of the symbols of the ancient Transformers.  His knowledge of the All Spark was probably also superior to others.  Put these facts together, and it’s no surprise he knew how to get Megatron out of the stasis-lock using parts (and possibly the “spark”) from another constructicon and the All Spark shard.

Transformers RotF - Scapel (The Doctor)Transformers RotF - constructicons at bottom of the ocean (Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage)

3.  When the decepticons descended in the ocean, the Navy said there were 5 decepticons.  At the bottom one of them was killed for parts (for Megatron’s revival), but when they ascended, the Navy said there were 6 decepticons.  Isn’t 5 minus 1 plus 1 = 5?  Most people forget that “The Doctor” came out of Ravage’s mouth at the bottom of the ocean.  Therefore he was not detected when Ravage and the constructicons descended to the ocean.  We can assume that he did show up on radar on the way back up.  This accounts for 6.

Transformers RotF - Grindor

4.  How did the Helicopter guy (Blackout from Transformers 1) get revived?  It’s not Blackout.  He’s a little more white-ish and his name is Grindor.  Yes, it could have been explained better.  The proof lies in the toy made of the guy.  Apparently it’s a clone of Blackout or decepticon of the same size who chose the same alt. mode as Blackout.  (More on clones later on in this article…)

Transformers RotF - The Fallen

5.  Why didn’t the Fallen show up earlier?  First of all, he was old like Jetfire.  You’ll notice that on the Nemesis (the crashed ship on Mars), the Fallen is attached to some stuff.  He likely was resting trying to keep himself “healthy” due to the lack of Energon.  Secondly, he was waiting for Optimus Prime to be killed since only a Prime could match up against him.

Transformers RotF - Long Haul (or his clone)

6.  How come after the construction vehicles (constructicons) form Devastator, we see some of those same constructicons fighting individually in robot mode?  How are they in two places at once?  Also, how did Bonecrusher (from Transformers 1) get alive again and show up in the desert fighting?  In Transformers lore, there were clones.  In the original 80’s cartoon, there were clones of the decepticon jets Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker and there were insecticon clones.  There were autobots with similar alt. modes too (Bumblebee and Cliffjumper, Sideswipe and Red Alert, Trailbreaker and Hoist, etc…).  So, in Revenge of the Fallen, the multiple constructions must be because of clones.  Same goes for the bot that looks just like Bonecrusher (alt. mode = military “buffalo”).  More evidence of clones is how the Excavator decepticon (Demolisher) in the beginning of the movie (who was killed) is similar to the Excavator who starts Devastator’s transformation at the end of the movie (this Excavator is called “Scavenger” on the toy packaging).

Transformers RotF - Decepticon cannon fodder

7.  Why are there decepticons that look kinda like Megatron near the end of the movie fighting against the US Military?  These decepticons came from the Nemesis and had no need for an Earth alt. mode since their primary objective was to stop Sam from reaching Optimus Prime with the matrix and to steal the Matrix to use it for the machine (in the pyramid) that destroys the sun for Energon.  You’ll recall that Megatron (in his arrogance) never had an Earth alt. mode either.  Remember how in Transformers 1, Optimus, Jazz, and Ironhide look very similar until they scan Earth vehicles for their alt. mode.  This proves that Transformers can look very similar in their “protoform” state before scanning an Earth vehicle.  Furthermore, these decepticon no-name drones/clones are the “cannon fodder” that no movie viewer cares gets killed.

8.  When Sam is trying to get the Matrix to Optimus’ body, why didn’t he just take Bumblebee in Camaro mode?  He did… well, at first that was the plan.  But then Starscream attacked them.  Sam made a plan for Bumblebee to go off by himself as a decoy and the Twins to go off as other decoys.  Meanwhile he and Mikaela went by foot — something the decepticons wouldn’t expect.  He later had Bumblebee take his parents to safety, probably because he cared so much about them being safe.  Probably more so than his own life, one could argue.

Transformers RotF - Skids & Mudflap (the twins)

9.  Why are there Transformers that talk “ghetto talk”?  (The autobot twins)  They are basically autobot kids.  Meaning, they’re young like kids are.  You know how kids/youth will talk in ways adults won’t.  Same goes here with the autobot twins, Skids and Mudflap.  Remember, in Transformers 1, Optimus Prime said the autobots learned Earth’s languages through the World Wide Web.  Skids and Mudflap, being young, must have liked this “ghetto talk”.

10.  Why are all three autobot female bikes called “Arcee”?  The writers of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen orginally intended for the three “Arcee bikes” to combine together.  You can see concept art on the 2nd Bonus DVD or BluRay disk.  This plan was apparently a late scratch.  Toys were made of (currently) two of the three bikes.  The blue one was called Chromia (after a blue female G1 character) and the red one was called Arcee.  The purple one is rumored to be called either Elita One or Flare-up.

Transformers RotF - Matrix of Leadership

11.  The Matrix?  A decepticon that transforms into a girl?  Why are they ripping ideas from other movies?  The Matrix was actually an essential part to the 80’s original cartoon.  In the 1986 cartoon Transformers Movie, the Matrix of Leadership was passed on from Optimus Prime and eventually inherited by Rodimus Prime, a new leader.  So… Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen did NOT steal from “The Matrix” (the movie).  As far as the transformer whose alt. mode was the college girl (played by Isabel Lucas), that also is based on old Transformers lore.  In the late 80’s, when Transformers cartoons stopped in America, Japan continued making Transformers Cartoons.  In “Transformers: Super-God Masterforce” (1988), there were Transformers called Pretenders.  These Pretenders “transformed” into a human-look-a-like mode.  The Alice character in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was inspired from this.

12.  Why couldn’t Bumblebee talk in Revenge of the Fallen?  Wasn’t his voice working at the end of Transformers 1?  Good question.  Haven’t figured that out yet…

Some would argue that so many questions or the fact that some people have to watch the movie twice to figure it all out means it’s not a good movie.  Did those same critics say the same thing about Mission Impossible (with Tom Cruise) or The Lord of the Rings?  Many people had to watch those movies more than once or ask questions to others (like people who had read the Lord of the Rings books), but yet many enjoyed those movies.  You be the judge with Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen…

Transformers 3: What it needs and doesn’t need.

Optimus Prime

Michael Bay’s website was recently updated with a blog post stating there’d be a meeting this week (9/14 to 9/18) between Bay, Spielberg, and Ehren Kruger to discuss ideas for Transformers 3.  One of the things they’ll decide is if it will come out in the summer of 2011 or 2012.

Despite what critics said about Transformers 2 (properly called Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen), it set records at the box office.  The Blu Ray and DVD comes out October 20 according to a TV spot that was recently released (see below at the end of this blog post).  Many things “worked” in this 2nd movie and other things were “controversial” or arguably not agreed upon by the millions of people who have watched it.

Everyone who enjoys action movies, and more specifically the first Transformers Movie (2007) and the second, hope the third one will keep what works and improve upon what didn’t.  Here’s our humble suggestions.

 

Things that worked:  Keep these for Movie #3

  1. The CGI:  The graphics were very impressive in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.  The people at ILM are amazing.  Keep them for Transformers 3.
  2. Optimus Prime:  Optimus held nothing back in his fights in Transformers 2, and it was pretty cool to see the leader of the autobots take on 3 major decepticons (Megatron, Starscream, and Grindor [Blackout’s clone]) by himself, let alone Demolisher in the beginning of the movie.
  3. Shia LaBeouf:  Loved him in both movies.  Good mix of humor and believable acting.  He’s earned the respect of almost every fan of these films.  Keep him in.
  4. Megatron vs. Starscream:  The second movie showed more of the relationship between Megatron and Starscream.  Hardcore fans loved seeing it.  We’ll be more than happy to see more of it in the new movie.
  5. Michael Bay’s Strengths:  This guy gets so much hate on the interwebs.  The guy really does have talent with setting up his action scenes and filming them at great angles.  He has the relationship with the US Military — which really is crucial for these films to have a sense of realism.  Despite what you may think of him, he puts his heart and soul, and definitely his late hours of time into making these films.
  6. Spielberg and the Writers:  Yes, the plot of the second movie was criticized by many, but the writers of the Transformers Movie-Verse (Ehren Kruger, Alex Kurtzman, and Roberto Orci) are dedicated to this franchise.  Changing the writers completely would be a big mistake.  Kurtzman and Orci have specifically come out as admitting to being big fans of Transformers ever since being kids in the 80’s.  Oh, by the way, you gotta keep Spielberg.  He’s freaking Steven Spielberg for crying out loud.
  7. Classic Characters:  The hardcore fans really do appreciate it when they’re thrown a bone.  Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jazz, Jetfire, and Arcee are classic autobots.  Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, Devastator, and the constructicons are classic decepticons.  We appreciate it.  We hope to be just as happy with the characters in Transformers 3.

 

 Things to improve:  What didn’t quite work in Movie #2

  1. Humor is Good, but Too Much of a Good Thing is Not Good:  Most critics and viewers alike found the first Transformers Movie (2007) to have a decent balance of action, story, and humor.  Many even found it to be charming.  Yes, there was a little sexual humor and what-not, but it wasn’t overboard.  Unfortunately the same was not often said about Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009).   Many feel that it had too much sexual humor and too much “ghetto” humor (with the twins, Mudflap & Skids).  It’s not that people are demanding for no sexual humor or “ghetto” humor at all… just dial it down a notch or two and it will be better.
  2. “New” Characters Were Just “Okay”:  In the first Transformers film (2007), the “newer” characters to the transformers lore were Blackout (helicopter) and Barricade (Saleen Mustang Police Car).  They were pleasant surprises.  In the eyes of many fans, they were done well and added to the success of the movie.  In the second Transformers film, the “newer” characters to the transformers lore were of the likes of The Fallen, Scapel (a.k.a. “The Doctor” — the little microscope dude), Alice, Mudflap & Skids, Demolisher, and Sideways.  Wheelie was also in the new movie (although not new to TF lore).  Sideways was barely in the new film before being sliced in two and Demolisher didn’t last much longer.  Alice was okay, but how many “hot” girls with main roles are you going to put into these films?  Scapel was loved by some and annoying to others — mixed reviews on him.  Mudflap & Skids were funny at times… but their “ghetto” humor was a little too much.  The Fallen was okay, but didn’t come across as big and bad as you’d expect.  My point is they didn’t seem to add to the film in the same positive way that Barricade and Blackout did to the first film.  Debatable, I know, but that’s how I feel.
  3. Megan Fox:  Get rid of this actress.  That’s right — I said it.  To her credit her acting in the second film was much better than the first — so I’m not going to say she was only there for sex appeal, but…  She obviously doesn’t have any respect for Michael Bay, as shown by her comments in some interviews.  How can you not respect the guy who gave you your first big break?  Furthermore, she comes off as an ungrateful “airhead”.  Yes, that seems harsh — it’s just how many feel she’s comes across.  Perhaps she’s actually a nice person, but she’s not giving that impression.  IF she really is as ungrateful as she’s come across, then why not give her what she deserves — a “thank you” for being in the first two films and then move on.  Shia LeBeouf is essential to these films.  Megan Fox (sorry) is not.  Maybe it’s time to find someone else to co-star with Shia.

These are just some humble opinions.  If you disagree (or agree), sound of with a comment below.

Also, check out the TV Spot ad for the Blu Ray and DVD of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, coming to the US on October 20, 2009.